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This Seat’s Taken interview series: Derek & Mike of Robe Trotting

You never know when you’ll meet a partner who makes travels feel like adventures. Derek & Mike met by chance, and now they’re a successful expat couple!

March 22, 2020 //  by Meagan

There are two really cool parts to running this series. One is getting to know couples who are incredibly different from us, but who enjoy sharing the world together just as much as we do. The other is reading answers from couples who remind us so much of ourselves we feel like we could already be friends. Derek and Mike of Robe Trotting are absolutely one of the latter. They met through their love of an active lifestyle, and grew into sharing their globetrotting (or, you know, robe trotting) experiences together.

What’s your story?

We met in Philadelphia playing in an LGBTQ+ sports league together. We met during fall kickball playing on different teams. We didn’t know much about each other until that winter when we started playing dodgeball, again on different teams. One night we were talking at the bar after a game and all of a sudden we were the only two left and it was way too late for a work night but we had our first kiss and were pretty much together ever since.

We went to a basketball game the following week for our first date and our first trip together was to Boston to see a Red Sox game at Fenway Park. You learn a lot about someone when you travel together. That was 5 years ago, so it’s easy to say we travel well together.

derek and mike from robe trotting

Do you have the same travel style or different travel styles? How does this impact your adventures together?

We have sort of meshed our travel styles together but it wasn’t always so similar. Mike is an engineer, so when we planned our first travel trip to Boston from Philadelphia the planning process involved a pivot table and multiple spread sheets. The cost analysis of driving, taking the train and flying were helpful, but Derek had a different approach. The train through the American northeast corridor would be scenic and we could stop in Providence, Rhode Island for a night. It was an easy decision because it was one part practical and one part fun.

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That’s kind of the essence of our travel style. Budget doesn’t drive our travel decisions, but we aren’t frivolous. We don’t mind roughing it a little, but we like a hot shower at the end of the day. Museums and tours are great, but we like to slow things down and get a feel for local pubs and culture.

Our interests drive our travel as well and we’ve built city breaks around sporting events and half marathons. We even traveled to see the Red Sox in London, repeating our first time traveling together. Since we’re both history nerd and borderline foodies, we usually agree on what we like to do when we’re exploring a new destination.

What’s the biggest thing you’ve learned from traveling as partners? What makes your partnership work on the road?

Two years into our relationship, Mike was offered a very sudden professional opportunity abroad. It was a quick decision, but we jumped on it and moved from Philadelphia, USA to Copenhagen, Denmark. We have learned more than we ever dreamed from expatriating together. It’s pushed us personally and as a couple and we really learned how to trust each other and depend on each other. It’s also given us a chance to experience many highs and lows together. Being an expat is intense and the emotional extremes can be daunting, but it’s been a challenge that brought us incredibly close.

Our biggest tool has been communication, and it’s probably a cliche answer, but it’s the basics and fundamentals that you rely on it a situation like living abroad. When you rely so much on your partner because you start over in a new culture, away from your friends, family and country – you learn what’s really important.

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What’s the best part about traveling as partners? And the biggest challenge?

Traveling together means that we always have someone to share the experience with. Derek was always curious to travel, but made it a priority when we started our relationship. Having someone just as curious has led us to over 40 countries and is why we’ve lived abroad for 3 years and counting.

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There are, of course, challenges with traveling as a couple, especially for LGBTQ+ partners. The minor ones are checking into a hotel and always being asked questions like ”I see you booked a king size bed, did you want two doubles?” Some others include traveling to countries and destinations where LGBTQ rights are restricted or the community is less-visible.

Every gay traveler has to wrestle with the decision of visiting these countries and rectify the choice by showing discretion in their expression and how they present themselves. This is a difficult one for many LGBTQ+ couples.

As Americans, we weren’t immune to discrimination before traveling or living abroad. Society is much more progressive for the LGBTQ+ community in Denmark, but we take it for granted when we leave Copenhagen. It can be triggering to have to ”go back in the closet” after living an open life and overcoming the coming out process, but it’s a choice you make to travel to certain locations. We strongly feel that it’s better to see the world, even if we adapt ourselves in certain destinations.

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Based on your experience, what’s the best advice you have for couples who have just scheduled their first trip together?

The only advice is ”don’t look back”! Keep exploring together and be flexible, adventurous and compromise when necessary.

Planning a trip together is one of our favorite things to do, so use it to make new bonds and grow as a couple. Find ways to surprise each other along the way. Especially at first, it’s a great way to get to know each other. Sometimes Mike will research and plan a half-day tour and Derek will research and plan a nice restaurant serving local cuisine. Those are the best parts of traveling as a couple and a great gift for one another while seeing a destination.

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Well, the flights and hotel are booked, and we cou Well, the flights and hotel are booked, and we couldn’t be more excited to enjoy this amazing view of Lisbon AGAIN in November! 😍🇵🇹
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One of Lisbon’s most prevalent charms is on the One of Lisbon’s most prevalent charms is on the facade of almost every building: beautiful, vibrant tiles in all sorts of vivid colors and designs. If you venture into the Alfama district, like we did here, you’ll find splashes of color around almost every corner!

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Quite possibly the tastiest part of our trip so fa Quite possibly the tastiest part of our trip so far! Anyone recognize what these little boxes hold? 🤔
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Olá querido Lisboa 😘 We’re so excited to be Olá querido Lisboa 😘 We’re so excited to be here!

We spent part of our first afternoon exploring the iconic Praça do Comércio, browsing tables set up by local artisans and enjoying the architecture and bright, sunny day. Couldn’t resist this photo when one of the city’s legendary trams pulled up!

And then we got back to the hotel and crashed. We don’t deal with jet lag as well as we used to 😅

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Would you believe the forecast today called for th Would you believe the forecast today called for thunderstorms?! Guess no one can rain on our #OBX parade 😊🌴 Enjoying our last night in the Outer Banks - including this patio view and a drool-worthy dinner with delicious cocktails at @steamers_obx - before we head back to reality tomorrow 😩
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Spent today trying out our new #sportbrella at @ca Spent today trying out our new #sportbrella at @capehatterasnps , watching the pelicans diving and (unfortunately) seeing some of the season’s first jellyfish coming in. Even caught sight of a big stingray just outside the shallows, but it was too fast for a picture. Too bad the heat index was 108F! 🥵 stay hydrated and remember to #maskup y’all!
We know we’ve been super quiet over the last sev We know we’ve been super quiet over the last several months. Some #travelbloggers have continued to thrive in quarantine... and some, like us, have found some very real and very human challenges. Our sweet little furbaby, William, left us this summer, we’ve had more than one family emergency, and we’re exhausted from work and all the insanity in the news. 

So, as a treat to ourselves, we’ve both taken a week off of work (encouraged to do so by both of our managers, I might add!) and drove down to an Airbnb in North Carolina’s Outer Banks. This is our host’s completely idyllic backyard, which we’ve already enjoyed... after disinfecting the room, the chairs, and everything else we could get our Lysol wipes on 😷

Traveling in the time of COVID frankly kinda sucks, largely because so many people seem to ~forget~ to #wearamask and that #socialdistancing is a thing 😩 But so far, we’ve stuck to less crowded beaches and early meals at outdoor, distanced restaurants. Now we just need to remember how to relax...... 😂😭
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Quarantine has been... hard. We’ve struggled wit Quarantine has been... hard. We’ve struggled with taming our wanderlust, and with being together 24/7 without a common goal (eg exploring a new place). We’ve missed our usual date nights, planning trips, spending time with friends, and seeing our families. But tonight, after a rough day where neither of us were living our best lives, we got out of the house, picked up some takeout from @wonggonzalezrva (including adult Capri suns/margaritas!) and set up a picnic blanket on the grass at the @vmfamuseum. While theee were plenty of people out enjoying the warm weather, we all stayed apart and just experienced the evening. By the time we left, we both felt refreshed and much more relaxed. We really will get through this, guys. Everybody stay healthy, stay safe, and take care of yourselves and your loved ones 💜 .
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